Jiddu Krishnamurti
Brockwood Park 1972 –
Public Discussion 1
Can There Be complete Freedom Of Thought?
Does learning require thinking, or only awareness?
- To be aware is to be conscious, to be in relationship with what you observe outwardly and also our inward reactions.
- Awareness reveals that I have a conclusion from which I act, which prevents thefree flow of energy.
- You see that you have many opinions and conclusions.
- You don’t know why you have them or how to be free of them.
- Start with not knowing.
- Knowledge is in the past whilst learning is vital, in the present.
- In learning, which is a constant movement, can opinion and conclusion ever beformed?
- Can thought be slowed down naturally? In learning about the function of thought, slowing down takes place without control or effort.
- Can the mind empty itself without effort?
- Do LSD and other drugs slow down the mind?
Brockwood Park 1972 –
Public Discussion
9 September 1972
- Learning is instant perception and action. What place has thought in learning?
- To learn about freedom must thought be completely silent? Does insight into freedom take time?
- Can thinking, however rational, bring about a psychological revolution in us?
- Is thought always conditioned? Is freedom the non-existence of thought?
- My very being is related to thought. If you want to see something new, what do you do?
- To have insight, let go of the old and listen.
- Learning is not memorizing.
- Q: Is feeling another way of thinking?
- Q: Isn’t the need to love and be loved essential?
- Needing love is love of self.
Brockwood Park 1972
Public Talk 1
14 September 1972
- Q: Why don’t we see the division between the observer and the observed?
- How does the division come about which causes conflict and misery?
- Are we aware that we are fragmented? Why does contradiction exist?
- Can we have a mind that is not fragmented and contradictory?
- Can the mind live without comparison?
- The brain sees that nationalities and religious divisions are disastrous for human relationship. What is the capacity that makes the brain see this? Is this awareness? Is this intelligence?
- What is the relationship of intelligence to all that is taking place?
- Intelligence operating has its own action. When there is that intelligence, there is sanity.
- Is intelligence operating in you?
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Brockwood Park 1972
Public Talk 2
The action of intelligence
10 September 1972
- Is thought responsible for fragmentation?
- Does fragmentation have its own activity?
- What is the energy that perceives the total and doesn’t live in fragmentation?
- Does comparison bring about fear and pleasure?
- Is thought seeking security in belief and dogma?
- Can the mind learn instantly all the content of the unconscious in which there are deep, secret fears?
- Does analysis imply time and division? Is consciousness separate from its content?
- To get at the root of fear means learning about not being.
- Q: What about guilt?
Brockwood Park 1972
Public Talk 3
To come upon the new, thought must be quiet
16 September 1972
- Q: What is the action that will be a total response to the world around us?
- Can one respond totally without learning about love and death in relation to daily life?
- Do we live, or do we tolerate living?
- Do we live according to ideas and conclusions based on belief, dogma and memory?
- Is there an action which dissipates all images?
- Is love relationship in which there is no image?
- Is disorder relationship in which there is the image?
- Can a mind seeking comfort learn about death?
- Find out whether death is something to be avoided or to be lived with naturally.
- Can the mind free itself from the known?
- Q: What relationship has literature, beauty and art to our daily life?
- Q: Were you conditioned by the Masters?
- Q: Can one help someone in distress?
Brockwood Park 1972
Public Talk 4
Direct perception is freedom
17 September 1972
- If one is serious, one must learn for oneself if there is such a thing as the im measurable.
- Thought cannot find the immeasurable because thought is measurement and time.
- Can thought, realizing its limitations, be quiet?
- Can the mind without effort see its content clearly, and the limitation, lack of space and time-binding quality of its consciousness?
- When you say, ‘I do not know,’ does the content have importance?
- There are various systems of meditation, gadgets, yoga, to make the mind quiet. These are unimportant.
- Is truth the very perception of the false? • When the mind has perceived the truth of something, what is time?
- Is there a different dimension which thought cannot touch?
Bombay (Mumbai) 1971 –
Public Talk 1
7 February 1971
- Where there is division there must be conflict.
- A mind in conflict must inevitably be distorted and therefore it cannot possibly see clearly what is truth.
- We need a total change, a deep revolution, psychological revolution, the inward revolution, without which you cannot possibly create a new society.
- Is it possible to observe, to perceive without the observer?
- How are images formed? Can the image-building come to an end?
- Knowledge is absolutely necessary.
- Is it possible that knowledge, which the brain has accumulated through centuries, does not interfere with relationship?
Bombay (Mumbai) 1971 –
Public Talk 2
10 February 1971
- Can the mind living in this world ever be free, not only superficially but profoundly, at the very root of its existence?
- ‘Freedom from’ is an abstraction, but freedom in observing ‘what is’ and going beyond it is actual freedom.
- How do I observe greed?
- Do I observe it as an outsider looking in or do I observe it without the observer?
- Without the mind being free you cannot live in order.
- Q: Three years have passed;
- I have no energy to be aware of my reactions.
- Q: Can we seek God through observation?
Bombay (Mumbai) 1971 –
Public Talk 3
14 February 1971
- To live in this world with intelligence, in spite of all the complications.
- Is it possible to be free of fear, not only the superficial fear in relationship but the deep-rooted fear?
- Thought nourishes, sustains and gives continuity to fear and pleasure.
- When you are learning, your mind is awake.
- Truth isn’t second-hand; you can’t get it through a guru, a book, you have to learn about it.
- The beauty of learning is that you don’t know what truth is.
- What is love?
- A man who has not love in his heart, but the things made by thought, will make a monstrous world, will construct a society that is totally immoral.
- To find out, you must undo everything that you have done. • What does it mean to die?
Bombay (Mumbai) 1971 –
Public Talk 4
17 February 1971
- If you can put aside your favourite systems, if you can understand that concentration is merely a resistance and therefore constant conflict and wastage of energy, then we can find out for ourselves what is necessary for a mind that is in a state of meditation.
- To learn about oneself, a living thing, you have to watch, learn anew each minute.
- What is will?
- Consciousness is heritage, the result of time.
- Consciousness is the content of itself, which is time, sorrow, confusion, misery.
- Intelligence has no heritage.
- What is a mind that is completely silent?
- Q: How does one cope with the extraordinary energy that human beings have?
Berkeley 1969
3 February 1969
- The society in which we live is the result of our psychological state.
- Where there is fear there is aggression.
- For most of us, freedom is something that we don’t want.
- Inaction is total action.
- What is the machinery that builds images?
- Questions from the audience followed the talk.